That's great news, for the West at least. The rest of the world needs to play some serious catch-up, and it isn't happening anytime soon. Gays continue to be persecuted violently all over Africa (particularly Uganda) and the Islamic world.
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
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UK House of Commons Vote on Gay Marriage Later Today
by cofty inthe vote could go either way.. only 36% of the british public oppose gay marriage so there is no real political danger to the government.
david cameron is for it but the cabinet is split.. it will be a test for the tories.
are they still the reactionary dinosaurs we think they are?.
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what ever happened to the king of the north and king of south?
by nowwhat? inafter the daniel book came out, nothing has ben said about it in at least 10 years.
did that prohecy get thrown out the window when the soviet union fell?.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
That's exactly what happened. The time remaining was so short and the Soviet Union didn't look like it was going anywhere without a nuclear conflict, so at the time the prophecy must have made perfect sense both to the originator and to the people reading it. During the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991-1992, my mother was going on and on about how Armageddon was happening soon since the King of the North was dissolving. I think by the mid-Nineties when it was obvious that the world was moving on, they put that prophecy on the failed shelf in Brooklyn.
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Two Witnesses stuck in a elevator or car without Chaperon. Would they fornicate? Yes/No
by Witness 007 inim amazed how going witnessing sisters who knew me for decades would sit only in the back seat on the way to the hall...to avoid any sex at the traffic lights!!!
and chaperons 1840's style are needed because two witnesses alone for 10 minutes would go at it like animals even after all the training watchtower articles and talks being jahs clean org.
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Sex usually happened after a ruse to get the other party alone in the same room at a time and place when it wasn't likely to be discovered. Usually under the guise of a mutual WT study.
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Nancy Yuen China 1953- 23 years jail for refusing to stop door to door! Why did she do it?
by Witness 007 inthe new communist government were reasonable.
you can preach in your halls just not "door to door.
" missionary stanley jones and other non chinese stoped...but encouraged the chinese brothers to continue.
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The WT wanted a martyr to draw attention to their work in China, and they got a willing participant in Nancy Yuen. Though most of the blame rightfully goes to the organisation who trained and conditioned Mrs. Yuen to make such dangerous decisions, there is a huge part of me as a mother that feels that she chose an organisation over her family. She had an exit visa to Hong Kong (which had to be extremely difficult to get at the time) to join her family, but she chose to stay and had to have an inkling as to what would happen. She's not a hero or a martyr. Her children needed her as their mother, but she had other things in mind. She could have been in good standing with 'Jehovah' even if she went to Hong Kong and preached there. It was entirely unnecessary, and the Society should have had the foresight to wait on a more favourable political climate to emerge in China (as it eventually did) to push more strongly on their missionary efforts. I'd be curious as to what her children think of her and what she did now, and if they and her husband still are JWs.
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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I'd have to read the book and check their sources before coming to a conclusion on that one either way. I am left to speculate. From what little I can gather from that article, it depends on whether or not you believe in the principle of a 'successor state'. Uruguay was created as a buffer state by Spain and Portugal to placate Portugal's claims to the area. Many in Argentina view Uruguay as a sister country of equal status, and they also use the Sun of May in their flag as they were born out of the same revolution. If it came to it, Uruguay's claim would be the weakest out of all three states involved as they have never formally claimed it nor has there ever been any Uruguayan administration of any kind. They would have to register the new claim with the UN in 2013 and stand in line. Realistically, Uruguay would irritate both Argentina and the UK for no good reason if they all of a sudden stood up, and it's difficult to see what this would accomplish. Neither would your tongue-in-cheek suggestion of a UK annexation of Argentina. I think these two guys want to sell some books more than advance a real solution to the dispute.
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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So Splash -
Is that what you were looking for by starting this thread?
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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No apologies needed, mate. I do congratulate you on your work with ex-JWs though. I'm sure many find it useful (and no, that is NOT sarcasm).
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Note the word 'direct'. The opposite of direct would be 'indirect'.
And 'apologizing' is spelt 'apologising'. You using an American spell checker?
I don't need to rewrite history. My sources are the Sunday Times of London, Sir Simon Jenkins, and British Foreign Office correspondence. What are yours?
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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Yet if you were Irish, you'd know quite a different story regarding the 'Troubles'. A sectarian conflict to be sure, but one which was directly instigated by the English Crown in 1606. The untold suffering which resulted was caused by the feudal landowning system put in place by the British, placing a wealthy few in charge of so much land. The plots of land got smaller as the Irish population grew, leading to the great Irish famines of the 19th Century. By the early 20th century, the Irish had had it with foreign domination, and tried to shake the yoke of the Crown off their fragile shoulders. Instead of letting a straight up/down 'self-determination' vote happen in Ireland (or even in Ulster), the British knew better and gerrymandered for themselves an Irish rump state. 'Self-Determination' vote quickly and swiftly followed!
No one is making a direct correlation between the Malvinas and Ulster. Rather, I choose the make a point about the mentality of people being conditioned to explain their imperial adventures away without abandon. If one can chalk up the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland to a simple Catholic/Protestant conflict (which conveniently finds a way for the Crown to disavow involvement) and ignore completely the history behind the conflict and how it got there, you can easily deduce why some insist that the British had only been greeted by penguins in 1833. It's history being selectively written and remembered by people who have every conceivable reason to rewrite it.
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The Flaklands belong to Uruguay!
by Splash in(oops!
should read 'falklands' of course!).
who's going to be the next ones to claim them?.
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By saying that there were only penguins to greet the British settlers there is stretching the truth, but then I realised that you are speaking about the Port Egmont settlement of 1765/66. It was actually a garrison of troops rather than settlers, but there were both settlers and troops with the duly constituted settlement of Port Louis/Puerto Soledad. The British and Spanish exchanged unpleasant words until the Spanish expelled the British a few years later, and then the British were allowed to return to Gran Malvina (West Falkland). The British then abandoned their garrison there in 1774. The British then ceded their claims to any islands adjacent to South America in the Nootka Sound Conventions in the 1790s in exchange for ceded Spanish claims for what was then known as Oregon Country. Britain had earlier declared her eternal right to 'Falkland's Ysland' in the singular, meaning West Falkland. This the British Foreign Office found out about in the 20th century, and they rightfully concluded that if Britain had any legal claim, it was to West Falkland alone (For more information, read "The War in the Falklands : The Full Story" by The Sunday Times of London). The British were never established on Isla Soledad (East Falkland) until the usurption of 1833. It had been a solely French, Spanish, and most recently, an Argentine settlement. The American warship the USS Lexington then sacked the settlement and deported most (but not all of the settlement). It was into this vacuum the British stumbled into in 1833, yet there were still some gauchos, settlers, and Argentine troops in Puerto Soledad. If there were only penguins there to greet the British, why was Captain Don Pinedo ordered to leave with his troops and the remaining settlers?
So in reality, the British did indeed find 'penguins' at Port Egmont in 1766, only to abandon it permanently less than a decade later. They found Argentines at Puerto Soledad in 1833, and that is from where this dispute eminates.